Wednesday, May 16, 2012

The love and hate of Node.js

I've been in the happy position lately of interviewing engineers for my new start-up. If you've read any of my previous articles or seen my talks (Talk Notes (warning: PDF download)) you know I love this stuff (Jobs page).

I'm always up for a spirited discussion about algorithms or languages with smart people, but I do consider too much technical religion to be a red flag and it seems to be a rather common affliction.

So when I started interviewing recently, I was immediately reminded of the blind loyalty some times given to pieces of technology. As if all other competing languages/frameworks/variable-naming-schemes are "crap" where "crap" is loosely defined as, well, I'm not sure - but something that the person saying "crap" sure doesn't like. It's probably safe to say that any popular technology has (or had) a useful purpose at one point, and also I think it's safe to say that same piece of technology is not always the right solution.

Along with the perpetual Hackers news debates, I right away ran into a "Node Guy". That is, a guy maybe just a tad overzealous about using Node.js for, you know, everything.

I asked him why he chose Node for his last project. The answer was "Because it scales super well".

I will say, the marketing hype around Node is pretty good. I am not saying his answer was wrong. It wasn't. But it's pretty similar to answering the question "Why do you want to buy a Porsche?" - with the answer "Because it's fast".

Likely true, but by no means a distinguishing feature.

It isn't hard to find discussions in the developer community defending the performance of Node. Node at its core, is a C++ server. That part is likely competitively fast. But after that, the focus is on the performance of the JavaScript callouts. Someone told me that "microbenchmarks" aren't fair to Node and don't show the true performance. I think they're right in both cases - because microbenchmarks likely involve only a small amount of JavaScript. Truth is, the more JavaScript your Node application runs, the more its going to lose against server frameworks built in faster languages. In other words, microbenchmarks are probably the best Node is ever going to look.

Google's V8 JavaScript engine literally enabled Node to exist at all.
There are of course another set of people (the "Node haters") that are nothing short of incensed by the idea of Node. To them, it feels rather silly to create a server framework in a language like JavaScript. I can relate to someone who has spent years eek'ing out all possible performance of a C++ server only to watch someone write one in JavaScript and claim speediness.

In the early days of any field of science - science, invention, and engineering must overlap. That is, folks think up science, try it, and piece it together to see if it works - however rickety. Eventually however, enough tools and best-practices exist to allow details to be abstracted.

When that happens, many more people can create cool things with existing and tested pieces (i.e. engineer them together). Simply, you need to worry less about the details of the science to get things done. People with no knowledge of the underlying science can glue widgets together to make something. Often amazing things - at that time, you might consider that that "science" is somewhat beginning its evolution towards being an "art".

Possibly the quintessential computer science course is something like "Algorithms & Data Structures". Do you need that course to develop apps these days? Again, by proof of existence - I think not. If you have a phone interview with me I will ask you the difference between an Growable Array (aka Vector, ArrayList, etc) and a Linked List. Both structures do arguably the same thing but with notably different performance characteristics.

It's quite hard to create any application without using some form of list, but as long you have a "list" you know you can get the job done. I promise you there are thousands of sites and apps using the wrong list at the wrong time and incurring nasty linear time searches or insertions in nasty places. Truth is, if that never shows up as a measurable bottleneck, then one could argue that despite the algorithmic transgression - that code is "good enough".

Happy or sad, "good enough" is getting "good enougher" all the time. CPUs are fast and getting faster covering the tracks of slow code. We've never lived in a better time for algorithmic indifference. Comparatively, disks are slow, which make databases slow, which make the performance of the algorithms and languages you choose in your app less important than ever (not to be confused with "unimportant"). In fact, I'd argue that the entire resurgence of interpreted, dynamic languages can be traced back to the lackadaisical 5ms seek times of spinning disk drives. That's a bold statement and probably a whole other article - but if disks/databases are basically always the bottleneck (rather true in most web apps) - who cares how fast your language runs.

(disclaimer: If you've read anything else I've ever wrote you know I'm merely an observer of this trend, not a subscriber)

The controversy over Node is that it implies that developers from the client are piercing into the server. A domain typically full of people that came up from the OS layer. Those people are asking does it really make sense to write servers in a historically (slow) client language?

Further, and possibly a bit more personally, should people who only know client languages be writing servers at all? Server code is a unique skill just like many other things. Dabbling in writing servers is like me dabbling in doing web design - trust me, it's not pretty. There's only so many lower levels left - would you want a JavaScript operating system?

On the notable other hand - People who only know or love that client language have been given a whole new freedom and ability. They'll argue (with a rather reasonable defense) that Node.js represents one of the easiest ways to create a server or web app. Even if they don't defend the performance, in many practical cases, they don't need to - like it or not at the right time it can be "good enough" (again, proof by existence). It's positively no wonder they defend Node. They are defending their newly found, wondrous abilities that can solve real problems. Wouldn't you?

So as my information-less friend said - Node will scale. But that is, indeed information-less. So can Ruby, Rails, Java, C++, and COBOL - architectures scale - languages and servers don't. Just like most web apps, a Node application will probably be bottle-necked at its database. You can fool yourself that Node itself is "insanely fast" but you'd be fooling yourself (Java/Vert.x vs. Node, Java/Jetty vs. Node, Node vs. lots) and rest assured that despite scaling, some portion of your latency is baked into your language/framework performance. Your users are paying milliseconds for your choice of an interpreted and/or dynamic language.

Should your start-up use Node? That depends on a lot of things. If history is a teacher however, massive success will likely push you to something statically typed. Facebook "fixed" PHP by compiling PHP to C++ and Twitter painfully (after years of fail whales) migrated from Ruby to Scala/Java. Square has migrated to JRuby to improve performance, I'll be interested to watch if its enough (I'm feeling yet another article on the nefarious demons upon drop-in replacing a global-interpreter-locked Ruby with a true multithreaded one).

The fight over Node is, in truth, one of the least truly technical developer fights I've seen. People on both sides are simply defending their abilities and maybe their livelihoods - the technical points are rather obvious. I'd say Node is definitely a possible solution for some non-trivial set of problems - then again, I can think of plenty of situations I'd also veer away from it. But of course - I'm not very technically religious - and I'm definitely not a "Node Guy".

All this being said - I am seriously hiring across the stack (including mobile) at my new start-up. If you have a desire to argue with me about this sort of stuff on a daily basis - email me at and attach a resume.

This article was spawned from my own comment at William Edwards blog

Wednesday, May 2, 2012

How to get your resume "Silicon Valley Ready" - Part I

Per my last post, I've been given the opportunity to review a nice pile of resumes. As I am prone to, this got me to obsess a tad over how the resumes were put together and more importantly, what each told me.

What I perceived as issues are, in retrospect, my fault, not the resume owner's. That's because, per the entire point of my last post, the start-up environment is radically different than the corporate IT department. And the latter is where many of these resumes came from (which is exactly what I wanted and asked for).

In many cases, I received a resume from someone that included the regular set of data - experience, education, skills, etc. But the ones that got me excited were the ones where the person included in the email links to the websites or mobile-apps they had built. As I've said - the number one selling point for you as an engineer to get a job in Silicon Valley is that you love this stuff. There's an age-old conundrum of new grads who say "Employers want me to have experience before they'll hire me - but how do I get experience if I can't get a job?"

In our business I'm happy to say - that problem does not exist. Simply because you don't need anyone to give you a job to build something. A website. A mobile app. Heck, a program that finds smaller sets of strings in larger ones.

I realized that's probably the number one thing I'm looking for. You can show me, with no doubts, that as a software engineer - you can build something. Start to finish.

Interestingly, I like to think that I also don't put that much weight into whether a project was a commercial success. If it was, that's nice but and maybe it's because you are not only a great engineer but you have an awesome product sense - who knows (it just might mean you were lucky too). And unless it wasn't a commercial success because it was poorly engineered, that's not really the point. The point is that you built it. Or at least some non-trivial part of it.

With that in mind - this article sprang forth on what I like to see in resumes. I'll point out that this isn't very different from what I looked for when I was on a hiring committee at Google (so there are at least some current Google engineers that are partially there because of these thoughts).

First - I propose a new section to resumes - at least for software engineers. In addition to Experience, Education, Skills, Interest, and References (not suggesting we remove any of those) - I propose we add Cool Stuff I Have Built.

If your resume is going to go over one page (which, personally, I don't mind) - I'm hoping it's because of this section.

Any project you did solo or had a major hand in - whether paid or not paid, million users or just your mom, I'd love to know about. Websites, iphone apps, android apps, desktop apps, open-source projects, github accounts - you name it. Solo or as part of a team (indicate that). But it has to be, in one way or another "finished". Even if your iphone app was rejected by the app store - you can point me to a link to see it. It doesn't have to be a product either - maybe its an open-source project. The bottom line is it is something that you "finished". You executed. Your idea became a living breathing application or piece of code that in some way some how you could show to people.

The section might be broken up into individual projects with bullet points about each. For example:

Project Name: Mailinator
Technologies used: Java, tomcat, (no database)
Team Size:5'11", 175lbs (haha)
Implementation details/challenges:Custom server architecture built as an experimental test-bed for highly-multithreaded server design. Custom SMTP server. No database as emails are stored in RAM with a custom compression scheme.
Notable Metrics: up to 25MM emails per day, ~20k users per day, runs on a single server (on purpose as part of a personal experiment to optimize the system).
relevant links:,

Surely you could add other bullet points too (and suggestions welcome, leave a comment to this post). But you get the idea.

My previous post resonated strongly with some people - that is, they were in "IT departments" feeling like they weren't growing technically. And as you can imagine, a resume telling me you did a payroll system is great - but it's not what (most) start-ups are building. But what if you haven't built anything? And your "Cool Stuff I've Built" section is empty?

Well .. fix that.

No one is stopping you from building something. No one said you're ready for a transition out of your current job today and as with much of life it's up to you to take yourself to the next level. But nearly any person that already writes software with a penchant for learning and some ambition can spend the next few months of nights and weekends learning and building. (And it's absolutely possible that your day job accomplishments belong in that cool stuff section too).

So if by day you're a payroll guy, but by night you're in iphone ninja - you've got my attention. Not only because you have the skills that I'm looking for - but that in your spare time, you're out doing great things. And instead of going out every night drinking with your friends - at least some of those nights, you chose to stay home and learn and build cool stuff. And why would you do something like that? Simple - you love this stuff.

(My start-up is located in Palo Alto and I am right now interviewing for the initial engineering team. We're well-funded, building cool stuff, and plan to change, ya know, the world. No matter where you are - if you're a software engineer, willing to relocate to San Francisco/Silicon Valley (and of course, love to build great things) send me your resume. or check out : Anatomy of a Spammy Campaign

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